Title: Transcript - Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:35:18 GMT
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:35:18 GMT, Duration: [00:35:54.60]
[00:00:07.40] - Denise
Welcome to two hypnotherapists talking with me Denise Billen-Mejia in Delaware, USA.
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me, Martin Furber , in Preston, UK.
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weekly podcast is for anyone and everyone who would like to know more about the fascinating subject of hypnosis and the benefits it offers.
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a clinical hypnotherapist and psychotherapist.
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a retired medical doctor turned consulting hypnotist.
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We are two hypnotherapists talking.
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let's get on with the episode.
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let's get on with the show. Denise, please introduce our guest source.
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Martin and Amina. Amina Henderson is a young lady who is now living in Arkansas, but originally comes from LA. And she and I met because she was sort of six months behind me at hypnosis school, And so she didn't graduate with me, but but, we got to practice together a few times, and I've sort of followed her along in Facebook to see what she's up to. So hi, Amina. Thank you so much for joining us today.
[00:01:05.29] - Aminah
Thank you so much for the invite. I really appreciate it.
[00:01:09.50] - Denise
So I think Martin is interested as why somebody from LA would end up in Little Rock, Arkansas.
[00:01:15.70] - Denise
Yeah. So if you did Arkansas, that song comes in your head, doesn't it? We're just two little girls from Little Rock.
[00:01:21.70] - Aminah
Yes. I get that all the time every time I meet someone. Like, how did you get here? So there was a, HBCU Expo going on, during my senior year.
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quick thing, some of our listeners are in Britain and won't know the acronym can you say the words?
[00:01:40.79] - Aminah
So there was a Historical Black College Expo. It's usually just different colleges that meet at a city to invite people or students to attend those colleges. So there are different colleges from different states. Majority of them came from southern states. So right after a basketball tournament, during my high school winter break, I attended this, Historical Black College Expo. And I really was just there to look for different, groups, fraternities, and sororities to come to my, black history program, at my high school. So, as I was there, my dad (I was with my parents,) and my dad was like, since you're there, you might as well apply. And so I was like, you know, I really don't, plan on leaving Los Angeles. You know, I'm going to stay here. And so one of the schools that I applied to was Philander Smith College, Philander Smith University. This school constantly kept reaching out to me in regards to wanting me to be on academic probation. I had two " D"s on my transcript, and they were like, if you still are interested, you can still, you know, you know, be part of the Philander Smith family. And so, a month before moving day, I, made the decision to say, hey. You know, I think I'm a give it a try. You know? It won't hurt. My dad was like, why would you wanna do something like that? You know? It it was kinda more so a hesitation because I was I'm the youngest in my family.
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that's a long way from home.
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It is. You know? That's a very big jump, and it's very sudden if you just think of, like, this is a month before move -in date. So, one, you don't know if there's any rooms left. Mhmm. You know? So is it in your freshman? So
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freshman? So time you had you been there?
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Had you gone to visit? I didn't.
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sticking a pen in a map.
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All I was going off was by word-of-mouth. I had a cousin who lived in the city of Little Rock and also a virtual tour that was on the website. So that's all I was basing it off . wow. Okay. Well, this is what I'm a do. So my dad gave me, the option if you don't like it in December, of and that's when I went in 2011 the year, fall year. And I had a ball. I had so much fun. I got to meet so many people, so many, people who were willing to help me and find out the things that I have problems with, you know, because I I didn't know I had test anxiety. So that was another thing where I learned about myself as well as other people. The world is just filled with different people that, you know, it's like, I'm thankful that Philander Smith brought me, so many friendships from different parts of the world.
[00:04:51.60] - Denise
It
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like an amazing journey from from LA to there and everything that you experienced there. How did you first get interested in hypnosis? Where does that fit into the picture, Amia?
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So I mentioned that I have family that lives here in Little Rock.
[00:05:08.19] - Martin
Mhmm.
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So my, cousin, his name is John Sutton. He is a former DEA agent. He and my grandmother, were first cousins, and they were the oldest in our family. My grandmother has passed on, so now he is the oldest living on my father's side.
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Mhmm.
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And so a lot of people look up to him, you know, whether it's for problems. You know, they go to him. You know, he's that person. But I was going through a lot of stress, with my first job after graduating college.
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But, also, what was your what was your major?
[00:05:45.19] - Aminah
It was business administration. Okay. Yes. And so I was going through a lot of stress, with my first job, and he mentioned hypnosis. And so in my mind, hypnosis was, you know, mind control or something that you see on movies and stuff like that. And I was like, no. This is you know? And plus at that time, I wanna say I was, like, twenty,22 , but as of right now, I'm thirty one. So I really was like, this is not reall, t hat's not real andhe said, no. I used it in my field. And I was like, how did you use it? He was like, well, we used a lot of it to solve a lot of, crimes, murders, you know, just to find, you know, solutions to many problems.
[00:06:34.30] - Martin
I was like, how? So he was explaining to me all types of things that, they used it to find. I was just like, wow. And he said he used it himself for smoking and drinking. and? drinking. ? Yes. And drinking. And it amazed me because he is, I wanna say, in his eighties. He's eighty four . Years old. And he has all he has a lot of liquor in his house. Okay?
[00:07:05.19] - Denise
It's the South.... SCurrently. But It's the south. I never but I never seen him touch it. I never seen him touch it. And it always I always question, like, how come he never drinks his own liquor? I always see him serve it, but I never seen seen him drink it. So he explained to me, I love to make like, you just mentioned, this is the South. He loves that Southern hospitality, and that's what is in him. He's from Mississippi. And so he said, I just couldn't touch it anymore because I found it was interfering with my, home life. You know, he has children you know, little children and stuff like that and interfering with his job, that he found that it was not helping him at all. So he self -hypnotized himself, which I was like, wait a minute. You're giving me a lot of information all at once. This is this is real. Like, this is a real thing. And so he told me about this woman here in Little Rock named Penny Ray who owns, who has her own business with hypnosis. And, I had panic attacks, terrible panic attacks to the point where, you know, I just was I would sweat a lot, chest would hurt. It'll always be painful. It just wasn't fun. I wasn't in a happy place either. So I, went to see her in twenty twelve, January twenty twelve, and, I haven't had a panic attack since then.
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Wow.
[00:08:42.50] - Aminah
And so I was like, wow. That's and if I do get stressed, you know, naturally, we have stress. You know? Yeah.
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Small guess is out of bed in the morning.
[00:08:51.70] - Aminah
Yes. But to the point to where my chest is not hurting, you know, I didn't have that. And so I got laid off from a job that I was like, man, what can I do, like, to for myself? Because I wanna have some type of stability in my life and something to have that I can look back and say, like, wow. Like, I did this, and I enjoy it. And so I found this school. Like, I was like, man, what about hypnosis? You know? Because it was still in the back of my mind. Like, man, that's something that I will be really be interested in. So I found a school, Innovation Institute, located in California. And I was like, wow. This is this is back home. I called the school, and I was like, well, what if I do I need to move back home? That moving back home wasn't an option because the drive from LA to, I believe, is Tarzana. It was just too it would be too much. Yeah. It'd be So I found out
[00:09:52.70] - Martin
Anybody not aware? LA is a huge, huge city.
[00:09:57.10] - Aminah
Yes. So, that is that was out. So online was the only option. I thought that was helpful. And that's what brought me to, getting interested in hypnosis. I it took me a little minute because I was, again, I was in the transition of being laid off and finding temporary jobs because I was substituting. And then COVID hit. You know, it kinda pushed things back. Mhmm. But I graduated in February twenty twenty and, honors at that. And so that was a, you know, a upliftment for myself, but I practice with people. My mom was my first client. She was on, to hers was, choice was weight loss. Mhmm. And she was on diabetes medication. And she was like, I just I really want, you know, to do this. At first, she was hesitant.
[00:10:59.20] - Denise
Mhmm.
[00:10:59.50] - Aminah
You know? But I told her about it and explained to her all the, misconceptions of hypnosis and the pros of it. Like, the there's so many good qualities in that people miss in regards to that because they see movies or, you know, what they think they hear. And it's like, you know, having my mom as my first client really, helped me a lot. Now she's off of diabetes medication, which is a post
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doc. Fantastic. Fantastic.
[00:11:32.70] - Aminah
Yes. And to think, like, you think of, like, COVID, you know, it changed so many of our lives. You know, some of us a lot of people were drinking. Some people were eating a lot more. For my mom, she was going through this, and we, you know, we weren't really, having we had the ability to do the sessions like we wanted to. But to know that she was still listening to recordings and all that, Her doctor was so happy with her, and that really just gave me encouragement. Well, this is my first client. My first client is, like, amazing right now.
[00:12:08.60] - Martin
This is this is the first person that you haven't touched who wasn't a fellow student.
[00:12:12.29] - Aminah
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, that, that was a blessing itself.
[00:12:18.89] - Denise
Fantastic. And as your mom managed to keep the weight off since then, and she's still happy and
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healthy and
[00:12:25.00] - Denise
yeah. Oh, brilliant.
[00:12:34.60] - Aminah
You know? So she's just like, yes.
[00:12:38.89] - Martin
Yep. That's great. So I know you're not working full time yet as a hypnotist, but do you do you see yourself staying in Little Rock?
[00:12:48.60] - Aminah
You know, it is Little Rock is a great place, but home is always you know, LA is always warm. So, you know, I do think of it, you know, just thinking of, you know, the right time and
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the Mhmm.
[00:13:01.39] - Aminah
Opportunities. But as of right now, I'm I'm here.
[00:13:05.10] - Denise
And you're
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working for the convention center?
[00:13:08.50] - Aminah
Yes. The Little Rock Community Visitors Pier.
[00:13:11.70] - Martin
Is it your plan on on having a hypnosis business there as well, or are your hours gonna let you have people make appointments in the evening?
[00:13:21.79] - Aminah
So, you know, it's really, that is the goal, and it I don't feel like it would be difficult to do that because it's not it's very rare that I have late hours all the time.
[00:13:35.39] - Martin
They don't surprise you whether it's like, oh, sorry. You're staying till nine till nine. Oh, yeah. Okay.
[00:13:39.29] - Aminah
Yeah. Uh-huh. So it and it's a lot of individuals too that have second jobs too, in their own businesses. So I don't think it'll interfere at all. It's just the planning of it.
[00:13:51.79] - Martin
Yeah. Figuring out what you have to do legally to be in business.
[00:13:55.60] - Aminah
Yes. So now that, you know, I have my laptop, so, you know, I'm I'm You can write again. Yes. So that is like a relief.
[00:14:06.79] - Martin
Hypnosis on the Internet is wonderful. That's probably I don't I don't get is it real so much. Okay. Can you really do this online? Yeah.
[00:14:14.29] - Aminah
Yeah.
[00:14:14.50] - Martin
Something in your head, and your head is there all the time.
[00:14:17.29] - Aminah
Yes.
[00:14:18.10] - Denise
Yeah. I think Absolutely. I mean, I always say because I do a lot of clients online. I've got clients all over the world, and I always say providing the wearing earphones, it works every bit as good as in, a face to face situation, if not better because you've got the absolute focused attention of them if they're using earphones. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:14:38.10] - Martin
Yeah. Yeah. And then we've got a good deal with traffic getting home.
[00:14:41.70] - Denise
No. I'm I'm interested, Amina, in the fact that you you you before we came on air, you said, you know, you you wish to specialize in weight loss, but also anxiety. And I'm I'm thinking of, LA. Whenever I think of LA, I think of everybody being in therapy and being anxious or stressed. That's our perception of American television you see
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in the
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UK. Yes. Most definitely.
[00:15:08.79] - Denise
Alright. Okay. So it's good to know you agree with me. Thank you.
[00:15:12.29] - Martin
So do you have a particular program that you follow for the weight loss, or do you do you just go with what your what that client reflects back to you?
[00:15:22.10] - Aminah
Really, it's it's a a mixture of both. And also, like, you know, with the client I'll say majority of the time is what the client, tells me. And even just from our first session, you know, they may you know, they'll mention something, and I'll say, hello. Let's refer back to this or you know? So it's it's really just depending on the what the client does and or what they tell me, and then I have a mixture of what, you know, the plan as well. Mhmm.
[00:15:55.29] - Martin
Good. When when are you gonna pull the plug and actually do this?
[00:16:02.20] - Aminah
As far as starting the business.
[00:16:03.79] - Martin
When are you gonna when are you gonna actually start?
[00:16:05.79] - Aminah
I want to get a little bit more specialties on and, you know, gotta you know, how you how that saying is, when you don't, when you don't use it, you lose it.
[00:16:17.20] - Martin
Oh, yeah.
[00:16:17.79] - Aminah
And, you know, it's just I wanna brush up and feel, you know, like, okay. You know, I'm back in the groove of things, because I know know
[00:16:24.60] - Martin
know know it's That sounds like imposter syndrome adjacent. That's Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember being hypnotized by you. You can do this.
[00:16:33.10] - Denise
And and and, I mean, I can tell immediately you have got that absolute empathy, and you are so tuned into people. It's untrue. I can tell. I can tell you you've got this. You've so got this.
[00:16:45.20] - Aminah
Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that. I I do want to get more, specialties, though. Mhmm. And just as far as, like, you know, I did do the handwriting too, as well, which I that's one of my favorites, as far as just analyzing handwriting.
[00:17:06.00] - Denise
Mhmm. Tell us more. Tell us more.
[00:17:08.50] - Aminah
So, when it comes to handwriting, it's, leading to our thoughts as far as our subconscious mind, knowns and unknowns are. And I learned that whatever mood you are in in that moment, you ride it out in your feelings. And I remember having this and it was so funny when I right before I graduated, I was working with, pre k kids. So I was working with four year olds. And there's this little girl in my class who was writing she we we were practicing writing our names. And she wrote her name, and I've never really realized why she kept you know, she's little, but she always drew hearts on her paper. And at that time, you know, when you write your name, you go and play. So that was always taught. You know, you go when you write your name, you go play in the center. So she's still you know, I see you're still writing, and I'm like, what are you doing? She's like, I'm just drawing hearts. I'm like, go you know, go and play. It's okay. Just go and play. So and, she was like, no. I I still wanna draw my hearts. You know? She was just so fixated on drawing these hearts. But in, the handwriting class, I learned that when I was finishing, that class, when you draw hearts, it means that you have, like, a lot of love in your heart. You know, you like to give love. And it made me think of the of the little girl because she was always so happy. And and it made me think, well, next time, I'm a just let her keep drawing hearts. You know? You know, let her, you know, do her thing because that's what she enjoys doing. You know, why stop her from doing that if that's something that she loves? Yeah. So but it was it may you know, that's one of the things that I did. I that's one of my favorites is the handwriting because you get to see on another side of what that person is going through or maybe experiencing during that time or even in the past time. Like, what what is their issue? So you can tie that in and say, like, well, this person is not having a good day, or Mhmm. This person that they're writing about may not make them happy, or this theme may not make them happy. So you get a deeper deeper information about that client.
[00:19:42.90] - Denise
I mean, I can see the absolute reasoning behind that because Mhmm. I, for one, if depending on my mood, my handwriting changes greatly.
[00:19:51.50] - Aminah
Yeah.
[00:19:52.00] - Denise
You know, if if I'm writing something down in a rush and I'm stressed, my handwriting is terrible. Yeah. And
[00:19:58.90] - Martin
Can can you at least read
[00:20:01.50] - Denise
it afterwards? Sometimes not. No. Yeah. And also, strangely enough, I know we're going slightly off topic here with hypnotherapy, but I had my handwriting analyzed years ago by somebody. And they were talking about the slope to the right and downwards was a tendency towards depression, and so all the bits and pieces in there. And I I found it quite quite okay there, the analysis that they did. I thought it was pretty about eighty percent right about me.
[00:20:31.20] - Aminah
That is cool. Yeah. That and that's and I think that's the beauty of it because it's like, wait. That is me. You know? It's kinda scary. Like, what like, that's not me, but then you think about it like, yeah. That's that's me.
[00:20:45.00] - Denise
So this was something they taught you at Hypno College?
[00:20:48.50] - Aminah
Yeah. Mhmm. Yeah. Yes.
[00:20:50.00] - Martin
Yeah. Okay. Syllabus.
[00:20:51.90] - Denise
Yep. Okay. Interesting. Interesting.
[00:20:54.70] - Martin
Yeah. They did some EFT and some NLP stuff as well.
[00:20:58.70] - Aminah
Mhmm.
[00:20:59.79] - Denise
Yeah. Alright. Okay. Yeah. Because I've So I've gone through the syllabus today for, SFTA that I'll be teaching in summer.
[00:21:08.90] - Aminah
Oh, wow. That's cool.
[00:21:11.40] - Martin
Martin graduated just after you, but from a different school. And it's about From a a
[00:21:15.09] - Aminah
a a little school. Okay.
[00:21:16.20] - Martin
Yeah. But he he was very, very calculated. Having been in business before for other things, he was very sure he was gonna get all the pieces in place before he opened his doors.
[00:21:29.29] - Aminah
That is Do you have
[00:21:30.59] - Martin
any tips for Amina?
[00:21:32.09] - Aminah
Yeah. Mind Yeah. I'll definitely I'm like, you know, I need to pick your brain.
[00:21:36.40] - Denise
Yeah. Absolutely, you can. But, I mean, you've got it. Go for it. Absolutely. Denise was right. You've got a bit of imposter syndrome there. I can I can sense it, and I I I I say I say that with warmth because I was there myself not that many years ago? And I kept delaying. I kept making excuses to delay. I'll I'll tell you. I'll I'll tell the world the absolute reason why. In the past, whatever business I was in, it was never based around my name or my face or me. I was in the jewelry business. The jewelry shop didn't have my name. You never saw my face on any of the brochures or brochures as you say over there. You know, it was the product. It was the name of the business, not me. Whereas when I finished training as a therapist, and I I had it all in my head, oh, yeah. I need a website. I need this. I need that. When it came to launch, it was like, uh-oh. I gotta put a photograph of myself on there. The product is me.
[00:22:40.09] - Martin
Is that residual from when you were heavy yourself? Did you not like appearing in public? Or is this
[00:22:45.70] - Denise
No. I've just never been the kind of person who likes having the photograph taken. I've always said, like, I've got a great face for radio. You know? It's I've just never been that keen. As I say, with the with the jewelry businesses I have, it was never my name. You know, like some jewelers, you know, call it after themselves, don't they? I never did. I and I've never been that type to push myself forward as a person. I never networked, for example, when playing golf or anything like that. That just wasn't me. Then all of a sudden after I qualified, it was like, oh, there was a side to it that I haven't well thought out. And it was like, you've just gotta go for it. It was imposter syndrome. That's all it was. And I received some advice of somebody, which I won't repeat because it could be a family show. But, basically, they told me to get over myself and and just do it. And I would strongly say the same thing to Amina because you've got it. Just go for it. Go for it.
[00:23:39.70] - Aminah
Just do it.
[00:23:40.70] - Denise
Yeah. Yeah. And in a year from now, you can come back on the show and tell us how well you're doing.
[00:23:45.79] - Aminah
That's good. That'd be good. Do it. A year makes a difference.
[00:23:49.20] - Denise
Yeah. Absolutely. Well, believe me, it does.
[00:23:53.40] - Martin
Your first non non relative. Yeah. That's why.
[00:23:57.09] - Aminah
That would be that will be big. Yeah.
[00:23:59.00] - Martin
Do you think that are you going to work mostly online, or do you think you'll look for local clients?
[00:24:05.09] - Aminah
I think it'll start off online. Mhmm. Yeah. Online.
[00:24:11.00] - Martin
Good. You
[00:24:13.00] - Denise
were talking about you'd like to specialize in anxiety and stress. Have you got a particular program worked out for that, or is it just something you feel you'd be particularly, you know, attuned with? It's, you know, it's particularly what you like doing.
[00:24:31.59] - Aminah
Yeah. I think it's majority of what I particularly like doing, especially coming from experiencing that. I have not just tools that I learned, but also tools that I've even created, like, for myself too or just incorporate it. And I think too, like, just like you said, like, imposter syndrome. Mhmm. You know, affirming yourself, which is something that a lot of people a lot of us have a problem with. And I think, like, even, you know, incorporating those type of things, like, I use I've kinda fell back on that, when it comes to, like, the mental bank program. And I know that you're you're familiar with that, Denise. But that really helped me in regards to, anxiety and fears and even just, you know, affirming myself. Graduate from hypnosis, and even the current job that I have, I manifested. So I think that, leaving that with my clients and, I've even shared that with even clients that I've had through learning in school with hypnosis, is doing that. Mhmm. Mhmm.
[00:25:50.59] - Martin
Mhmm. Mhmm. I think that the anxiety anxiety is at least fifty percent of what we do no matter what the subject is. Everybody is anxious about something.
[00:25:58.90] - Denise
Yeah. I mean, I always say and that, well, it's actually it's Denise that says it, and I I often repeat it that, for example, any medical condition can be exacerbated by stress and Mhmm. Reduces stress is what we do
[00:26:13.00] - Martin
as hypnotists.
[00:26:13.70] - Denise
Yeah. So, you know, we can help, as as in the true complimentary sense of the word. We can help, you know, with a lot of medical conditions by easing the stress behind it.
[00:26:25.09] - Aminah
Yes.
[00:26:26.79] - Martin
Can you explain to me or can you think of why? Why I only know a handful of people other in this country who aren't the same shade of white I am. I think back to classroom, that array of people talking to the tutors. Is it is it, a church influence? Is it the, you know, you gotta pay a train for a start. That's not cheap. Do do you think there's a particular reason for it, and do you think it's likely to change?
[00:26:58.90] - Aminah
I would say that, again, it goes back to kind of, like, what you said, when it comes to the misconception of it. Mhmm. You know, it could be possibly with the religion too. You know? Like, oh, like, why you know, that's against, you know, my religion. You know? That's something that I I do here. Some and a lot of times, it's just not being knowledgeable of it because it's more so like, why would you do something like that? Because it's considered it's weird. You know? Yeah.
[00:27:35.59] - Martin
It's weird.
[00:27:36.00] - Aminah
And the, you
[00:27:36.50] - Martin
know, the most famous movie currently Yes. Is Get Out. And that was definitely
[00:27:42.00] - Aminah
yeah. You too. Yeah. I I think it's just more so not not being aware and knowledgeable of that, especially when it comes to predominantly people of color. But there are some people that I have come across to, who are aware, who you know, I say in example, like my mom. You know? I had to get you know, explain to people. Sometimes I haven't been that successful with some people when it comes to that, but I think a big big thing, I will say is just not being the the information of it. And then I will say second would probably be the religion aspect of it.
[00:28:29.79] - Martin
Just it's again an, an error of of thought because it they the Catholic church came out before the American Medical Association said it was good. Yeah.
[00:28:40.00] - Aminah
Yeah. I think it just really is just the having I think first, it has to start with the open mind.
[00:28:46.40] - Martin
Mhmm.
[00:28:48.09] - Aminah
And, you know, a lot of people, it may not be that interesting. You know? I'm not interested in that. You know? Why would I do that? You know, it's silly or you know, it's just I don't believe it.
[00:28:59.40] - Denise
Yeah. Interesting because in in this country, in the UK, it's the same thing. I on my course when I was training, there wasn't one single person of color. And I don't know in the UK of any hypnotherapists, of color, that I can think of readily to mind. I I work also as well as being a hypnotist. I work in, mental health for a thing called Mental Health First Aid England, and we train people to be mental health first aiders, like physical health first aiders. But if somebody's having a a mental health crisis or if someone's in danger of developing mental ill health, it's the same there. Training people from any diverse ethnic background communities, Getting them on there to train them is is not easy, because it it's the views on sort of mental health and things like that within those communities. Quite stoic about these things. You know? Like, oh, you're just feeling down. You know? It's okay. That kind of thing. It's, again, it's, you know, it's one of these things where we we need to sort of get the knowledge out there into every community about these things, about hypnosis, about mental health, about looking after yourself sort of thing.
[00:30:19.29] - Aminah
Yes. And and you even touched on it going back to just mental health in general. You know, I'm starting to see an increase of people of my community going into mental health, you know, as far as far as thinking it. Because it's not, it's not stigma. Encouraged. It's not encouraged, especially in our community, you know, but now, you know, you're starting to see a lot of us are going to seek help, which I feel like, you know, it's going to take a little while for people, especially, in which I've experienced, with people who look like me, want to learn about hypno hypnotherapy and the, you know, the value that you that's in it. I don't know if you there is a documentary on share profit. She was a tutor. Yes. She actually spoke on the, colorism, in the, African African community, women, when it comes to mental health, because a lot of that stuff, you know, it it does interfere with, you know, a lot of the things that we encounter on a daily basis. But she touched on how hypnosis can help when it comes to colorism. And I'm glad that she was able to, explain and, describe, like, the benefits of it and how the journey will be when going on that trip for, you know, hypnosis and things like that. I I know that it's helpful and it's getting out there. It's just taking time.
[00:32:08.09] - Denise
Yeah. I mean, unfortunately, due to systemic racism in this country. Yeah. For example, if your heritage is African or Caribbean, the chances are your first entry into the mental health system will be at crisis point via the police. Yes. Because people aren't seeking that support early on or early intervention when they have an issue, it reaches crisis point. And that Do you you
[00:32:36.00] - Martin
you you think some do you think some of that is like a provider? I hate that term providers. Doctors, nurses, therapists who are who look more like me than you? Is you think that they're they feel like they won't be understood and so they don't seek care earlier?
[00:32:51.50] - Denise
Yeah. Possibly. Or or because of the stigma within the cultures as well. You know?
[00:32:57.00] - Martin
Yeah. That's why that's why I was asking for Amina that that, we god. Like, is it what was her name? Shari? Who was the the tutor that was there at HMI?
[00:33:09.00] - Aminah
Shara?
[00:33:10.00] - Martin
Yeah. Shara.
[00:33:11.40] - Aminah
Mhmm. I think she was the only per
[00:33:14.00] - Martin
because I wasn't and I'll tell
[00:33:15.50] - Aminah
her to
[00:33:16.20] - Martin
graduation, but even graduation was pretty bland.
[00:33:21.70] - Aminah
Yeah.
[00:33:22.29] - Martin
Except for clothing. Clothing is very interesting.
[00:33:24.09] - Denise
That's right.
[00:33:24.59] - Martin
Yeah. But but, I I mean, there there is a lot. It's women have of all colors, have have been at a disadvantage in medicine because it was a very male dominated profession for hundreds of years. And so when they said something, the person on the receiving end didn't understand, even with the best will in the world, couldn't really understand what we say because we do speak different languages in some ways. Do you think that do you think you might become something of a pioneer there?
[00:33:56.09] - Aminah
You know, that that is the the plan. That is the goal, here in Little Rock. Because, again, like you said, the profession, it doesn't have that much that that many, as far as African Americans. So, yeah, you know, I've, I think there's about five of them here. Mhmm. And so that is that is the goal is to to be that first one here. So
[00:34:21.09] - Denise
Fantastic. That's brilliant. You I'll pass over to you, Denise. You you bring the conversation back.
[00:34:27.09] - Martin
Well, that would be difficult for me when we were we were when we finished, so I'm glad you're gonna be a pioneer. Yes. I think that's that's an excellent idea. I do have
[00:34:38.30] - Aminah
to say this has been very helpful because this is my first interview, and I hope I did well. That's you know, I just I I
[00:34:44.50] - Denise
I wanna set the invitation now a year in advance, Amina. I wanna get you back on here in a year's time to let us know how you're doing. How's that sound?
[00:34:52.59] - Aminah
I got yes. We'll do that.
[00:34:54.40] - Denise
Brilliant.
[00:35:02.19] - Martin
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[00:35:18.50] - Denise
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